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FPS limits at The War Zone:

All guns will be chronographed, using 0.25g BB's, at the beginning of each game day and tagged and logged. All guns are subject to random chronograph checks at any time. Any player found manipulating the tagging system, or using a gun on the field that has not passed chronograph checks and been tagged, will be expelled from the field permanently.

Guns with excessive rates of fire (20+ BB's per second) will not be permitted. All guns will have ROF checked during the chrono process.

We reserve the right to exclude any player from DMR or Sniper class based on our evaluation of that players maturity, experience and ability to correctly judge distances.

Rifleman: Up to 400 FPS with 0.25g BB's: full-auto may be used; minimum engagement distance of 10'

DMR (Designated Marksman Rifle): 401-450 FPS with 0.25g BB's: semi-auto only; minimum engagement distance of 50'

Sniper: 451-500 FPS with 0.25g BB's: semi-auto only (incapable of full-auto fire); minimum engagement distance of 100'

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How come they are higher than normal? And what about bolt actions? Aha
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I just realized that said .25. That places the upper limit of full auto at 1.8J according to this chart.

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How come they are higher than normal? And what about bolt actions? Aha


Define "normal". These are the limits set forth by the insurance company. If fields are supposed to be insured, and that's what the insurance says can be used, then, technically, these limits are "normal." The insurance policy we have is from the company that provides insurance for 70% of the airsoft fields in the US.

What about bolt-actions? Bolt-actions are semi-auto and can use the higher limits and longer MED.

I just realized that said .25. That places the upper limit of full auto at 1.8J according to this chart.

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Since there is always a 10' MED at all times, a 0.25g BB will lose roughly 0.3J of energy in the first 10' resulting in a potential 1.5J impact. By contrast, a paintball hit is about 12J at that same 10' range, 8 times the impact energy.

That being said, while technically "legal" within the ruleset, anyone at our field that full auto's someone else at 10' will be instantly ejected for their supreme act of douchebaggery and will be real lucky if they don't get their butt kicked plenty on the way to the front gate.

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Full time 10' MED sounds like a good idea.

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Define "normal". These are the limits set forth by the insurance company. If fields are supposed to be insured, and that's what the insurance says can be used, then, technically, these limits are "normal." The insurance policy we have is from the company that provides insurance for 70% of the airsoft fields in the US.

What about bolt-actions? Bolt-actions are semi-auto and can use the higher limits and longer MED.



Since there is always a 10' MED at all times, a 0.25g BB will lose roughly 0.3J of energy in the first 10' resulting in a potential 1.5J impact. By contrast, a paintball hit is about 12J at that same 10' range, 8 times the impact energy.

That being said, while technically "legal" within the ruleset, anyone at our field that full auto's someone else at 10' will be instantly ejected for their supreme act of douchebaggery and will be real lucky if they don't get their ass kicked plenty on the way to the front gate.

Okay, makes sense. I ment just compared to hca. But I didn't know about the insurance and their say in it.
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Modified first post. The insurance company has granted us permission to create and use an intermediate DMR class.

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since they accepted the dmr you could easily make the limits mirror mine and charlies field and measure them in .25 instead of .2 to keep with the guidlines

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so dose that mean we cant use any heavier bbs?

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so dose that mean we cant use any heavier bbs?


You can use any weight BB's you like; your gun will be chrono'd with 0.25g.

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if your gun shoots over 20rps can we still use it if we use semi only?
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if your gun shoots over 20rps can we still use it if we use semi only?


Yes. We would designate and tag it as if it was a DMR. You would be on your honor to keep the gun in semi at all times. Use of full auto would be an ejectionable offense.

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Yes. We would designate and tag it as if it was a DMR. You would be on your honor to keep the gun in semi at all times. Use of full auto would be an ejectionable offense.

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Define "normal". These are the limits set forth by the insurance company. If fields are supposed to be insured, and that's what the insurance says can be used, then, technically, these limits are "normal." The insurance policy we have is from the company that provides insurance for 70% of the airsoft fields in the US.

What about bolt-actions? Bolt-actions are semi-auto and can use the higher limits and longer MED.



Since there is always a 10' MED at all times, a 0.25g BB will lose roughly 0.3J of energy in the first 10' resulting in a potential 1.5J impact. By contrast, a paintball hit is about 12J at that same 10' range, 8 times the impact energy.

That being said, while technically "legal" within the ruleset, anyone at our field that full auto's someone else at 10' will be instantly ejected for their supreme act of douchebaggery and will be real lucky if they don't get their butt kicked plenty on the way to the front gate.


when you say full auto someone at 10 feet they with be ejected do you mean like a 10 shot burst or like trigger happy 50 rounds. Because like a 10 rounds or so on auto isn't that bad and if your going to complain about it... You shouldn't be playing airsoft and no one should get kicked out for that.

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That is what semi auto is for on your gun.If you were to shoot someone at ten feet with even ten bb's.I think that person would have a problem with you and I think the warzone would have a problem with you.

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Is there a limit on the fps we can have on a pistol?

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Is there a limit on the fps we can have on a pistol?

Pistols follow the same fps rules as a rifle.

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Pistols follow the same fps rules as a rifle.

If the pistol shot 450 with .25 would that be to much?

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If the pistol shot 450 with .25 would that be to much?


The pistol would be placed in the DMR category because it would shoot too hot for the Rifle category. It being in the DMR category would mean its minimum engagement distance would be 50 feet which is awful since almost all pistols are best at around or less than 50 feet.

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Would KWA KM4 RIS have to be a DMR at the field?
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